Path: news.net.uni-c.dk!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!news1.optus.net.au!optus!spool01.syd.optusnet.com.au!spool.optusnet.com.au!210.49.20.118.MISMATCH!not-for-mail From: fajp@optushome.com.au (Frank Adam) Newsgroups: comp.lang.basic.visual.database,comp.lang.basic.visual.misc,comp.lang.beta,comp.lang.c Subject: Re: WARNING! My OE removed the attachment as being unsafe Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 13:32:42 GMT Message-ID: <3c860e75.66855528@news1.rdc1.nsw.optushome.com.au> References: <3C8435F2.4ED2879A@attglobal.net> <3c851cb0_2@news.iprimus.com.au> <3c853c75.13087585@news1.rdc1.nsw.optushome.com.au> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Lines: 43 NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.164.242.23 X-Trace: 1015421508 18469 203.164.242.23 Xref: news.net.uni-c.dk comp.lang.basic.visual.database:119673 comp.lang.basic.visual.misc:516556 comp.lang.beta:13143 comp.lang.c:585032 On Tue, 05 Mar 2002 20:08:07 -0800, Terry Austin wrote: >>>> There is no such thing as "high security", or any real security at >>>> all, when using Outlook Express to read mail or usenet. >>>Bullshit. >>How many security patches (per release) does it take to change your >>opinion on that ? >I use OE at work. Never had a problem. Not even with the viruses that run in >the preview pane, or even the one that runs as it's being downloaded. > Good for you. Not so good for the milions who did have problems. It's a simple exercise to get online and look around on what the security and virus companies say about OE.. >You do have to keep up with critical updates. But you have to do that with >Windows anyway. The important ones all show up on the WindowsUpdate list. > Exactly, and what a nice long list it is too. Unless you (or MS) can guarantee to me that this was *the* patch, the patch and nothing but the last patch.... i'll stay wary and away from it. >Once you've got the correct settings, it's as secure as any other mail >client, provided you keep the patches current. And if you don't, no mail >client is secure, because Windows is not secure. > It's not ? Damn, but i have installed all the patches for it ! >You do program in Visual Basic, no? A Windows only platform for all intents >and purposes? > A platform is simply something my app has to run on, i don't have to have an effection for it. Windows has some good features and i do use it. However, i'm using it with the knowledge that it has problems, which is more than we can say for the vast majority of users out there. 20 odd years back i had a car like this. It was a Hunter station wagon, very good to get laid in, but i've spent every second weekend laying under it as well. I did like the car, but it still sucked under the bonnet. :) Regards, Frank